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In Simulation, where is the mind?

2021.12.05 17:47 somiOmnicron In Simulation, where is the mind?

Had a rather heated debate with my partner, and thought I'd share it here. When an individual is "in" the Matrix, where does their mind/consciousness reside? I offer a couple possibilities, but certainly I would expect there could be other interpretations here:

  1. The mind remains in the physical body, as it always necessarily must. As Morpheus tells us in the first film, "The body cannot live without the mind." In this interpretation, the mind and body remain together and the physical cable connected to the brain stem simply hijacks all the signals that would normal come from the physical body and replaces them with signals from the simulation. The individual is, and always will be, simply sitting in the chair or pod, their mind in the usual location, with signals simply redirected.
  2. The mind leaves the physical body and inhabits the simulated body within the simulation. This would contradict what Morpheus suggests, but could work as he could simply be mistaken (it won't be the first time or the last). In this interpretation, the cable connected to the brain stem provides a conduit for the mind to leave the body and enter the Matrix. The cable can also provide artificial stimulation to the physical body in order to maintain it (like life support). The individuals body remains in the chair or pod, but their mind is elsewhere inside the simulation.
  3. Part of the mind leaves the physical body but part of the mind remains. This would stretch a lot of ideas presented in the storyline. In this interpretation, the physical cable connected to the brain stem supports something like a tether between the part of the mind still inside the physical body and the part of the mind that exists inside the Matrix. The individual's physical self remains in the physical world in the chair or pod, but the individual's mind is stretched out across various places.
The reason for raising this question has to do with a number of occurrences that take place. For example, what happened to Apoc and Switch? Did they die, and if so, what killed them? Also, what happened to Neo at the end of the second film? Depending on the interpretation, different things must have taken place.
The issue with Apoc and Switch was the biggest concern that raised this question:
In case 1, Apoc and Switch should not have died. Instead they should have simply awoken as their simulation had ended. On the Nebuchadnezzar, Apoc and Switch should have awoken quite annoyed with Cypher. In the Matrix, their "residual self image" should have frozen or dispersed (similar to what takes place when an individual leaves the Matrix). A disruption in the connection if sufficiently small should not be too worrisome.
In case 2, their bodies should not have died (remaining on life support), and their minds inside the Matrix should have continued uninterrupted. Literally. Unplugging the cable should have had absolutely no impact on their respective situations. Essentially the cable is only really required when entering (separating mind and body) and exiting (joining mind and body) the Matrix. A disruption in the connection similarly doesn't play.
In case 3, death may actually be supported. As their minds are tethered across the cable, disconnecting the cable would result in something like a lobotomy, where a chunk of their mind would be left on either side. The trauma from the disconnected cable might be sufficient to induce death in the individuals.
However, there is another issue here that might play. The Nebuchadnezzar (and other craft used by Zion) do not physically connect to the Matrix with a "hard line." They are connected wirelessly, as Morpheus states: "we broadcast our pirate signal and hack into the Matrix." Wireless transmissions are incredibly unstable; sustaining connections requires a certain amount of delicacy and tolerance (use of timeouts and keep alives for example). Certainly there would be some built in resilience in the connections for the individuals, such that they don't die accidentally. Of course, this could be explained away through advanced technology, after all we are talking about the future here.
As you can see, none of the interpretations I've discussed entirely satisfy the situation of what happened to Apoc and Switch. There's always some niggly problem weighing somewhere. Does anyone else have a satisfactory answer for this?
And while I do acknowledge that this is a discussion of fictional technology and such, it affects current real world interpretations of simulations. Depending on how you understand what a simulation is especially. Is a dream a simulation? Is playing a game a simulation? If so, it seems like case 1 applies. But my partner begs to disagree with me...
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2021.12.05 17:47 throwra122421 Psychosis breaking down our relationship

Hello,
Throwaway acct as partner has Reddit and seeing this post would be triggering for him.
I have been with my partner for over a decade. For the past several years he’s been experiencing AH and delusions (mainly persecutory). He was on/off medication, and the meds never made the AH go away but seemed to help with the delusions and make him less agitated.
However, due to the side effects of antipsychotics (he’s tried quite a lot and the side effects are substantial) and them not making the AH go away, he has stopped the meds and have been attempting to manage the symptoms on his own.
It was alright at first - we were okay and he was functioning and working full time no issues. Obviously, over time he decompensated, and got to a point where he’s now fully 100% delusional and believes that the voices and the delusions are real. He believes that I have been “in” on this (colluding with the voices), and that even his family are in on it. He becomes upset whenever we mention psychosis because he believes the voices are 100% real and they are real people. He also had to take a leave of absence from work.
Basically it’s gotten to a point where we are going to break up and call off our wedding. He says he loves me but can’t be with me because I won’t tell him “the truth” (that I worked with the voices to torment him) and that he no longer trusts me.
I am so heartbroken. Our relationship is going to end not because of the “regular” or “normal” issues, not because something dramatic or unforgivable or fucked up happened, not because we no longer love each other, but because of this mental illness that he is convinced he does not have. I’m watching him slip away, he’s turning into someone I don’t recognize anymore because he won’t seek treatment or go back on medication and is convinced the people closest to him are hurting him.
What do I do? Is there anything that can be done? Has anyone else experienced this themselves or with a loved one? I’m afraid that at the rate he’s decompensated it’ll only get worse.
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